“Forgotten Names” is a Dungeon Quest in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
- This quest does not appear in your journal.
Locations[edit]
- College of Winterhold
- The Midden
- The Arcanaeum
Walkthrough[edit]
In the College of Winterhold, go the Northern side of the main courtyard. The hatch will take you to the Midden.

Continue forward along the corridor until you reach the first room. Drop down onto the ledge to turn right. Continue to the South through the opening.

Turn to the West in the next room and follow the corridor under the ledge. Continue following it until you reach The Midden Dark.

Cross the walkway to North from The Midden Dark.

Go to the Northeast, up the stairs and into next room.

There are two Skeletons here. You can simply open the East-facing door.

Follow that path to find a room with skulls, and a daedric gauntlet.

You will see the table to your left. Here you will find the Midden Incident Report and the Investigator’s Key

Finding the Rings[edit]
Go to the College of Winterhold, enter the Hall of Elements and use that to reach The Arcanaeum.

You will find the locked Investigator’s chest (Master) within the Arcanaeum. You can pick it up if you find it too difficult. If so, you’ll need the Investigator’s Key. Urag gro -Shub won’t be able to observe you as you do this. The rings will be returned by Urag gro-Shub, and the “Quest” will become impossible without reloading an earlier save.

You will find four rings inside: Balwen’s Ornamental Ring (or Pithi’s Ornamental Ring), Treoy’s Ornamental Ring (or Katarina’s Ornamental Ring). You can take these items out of your inventory.

Awaken the Pirate[edit]
While you are exploring The Midden below the College of Winterhold. A circular room will be found with a secret, dark portion of The Midden.
It is time to place the rings on the appropriate fingers:
Finger Ring Index Katarina’s Ring Middle Treoy’s Ring Ring Balwen’s Ring Little Pithi’s Ring
With the rings in place, then Velehk Sain will appear. It will want to know where it is. The Dragonborn will have two options. You can either release it to its Treasure Map, or fight it.

Claiming both rewards[edit]
- This can glitch the Treasure Chest.
Draw your weapon before you place the rings. Also, lower the difficulty level of the game. This is a fast kill. Do not put on the rings before the summoning. To free him, you must follow the conversation.
You can immediately attack Velehk Sains by reversing the conversation’s last sentence. You will receive the treasure map and have the opportunity to take home the loot.
Reward[edit]
- Velehk Sain’s Treasure Map – Free Velehk Sain
or
- 2 Scimitars, a Daedra Heart, Hammerfell Garb and Redguard Boots – Kill Velehk Sain
